Brandon Warmke is Assistant Professor of Philosophy at Bowling Green State University. A philosopher working on moral and political issues, he is the author of over twenty academic papers on public discourse, forgiveness, and moral responsibility. Warmke has been interviewed on Big Think among other outlets; his work has been featured in The Atlantic, Scientific American, Vox, The Guardian, and HuffPost. Justin Tosi is an Assistant Professor of Philosophy at Texas Tech University. He was previously a Junior Faculty Fellow at the Georgetown Institute for the Study of Markets and Ethics in the McDonough School of Business, and a Postdoctoral Research Fellow and Lecturer in the Philosophy Department at the University of Michigan. He works in social, political, legal, and moral philosophy, and especially on state legitimacy, special obligations, and social morality. His work has been published in Philosophy & Public Affairs, Legal Theory, Pacific Philosophical Quarterly, and other outlets. In addition to Grandstanding: The Use and Abuse of Moral Talk, he has co-authored a second book with Brandon Warmke, Why It’s OK to Mind Your Own Business, that will be published as part of the Routledge series “Why It’s OK: The Ethics of How We Live.”
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Episode 144
Brandon Warmke & Justin Tosi
Grandstanding: the Use and Abuse of Moral Talk | Brandon Warmke & Justin Tosi
Brandon Warmke is Assistant Professor of Philosophy at Bowling Green State University. A philosopher working on moral and political issues, he is the author of over twenty academic papers on public discourse, forgiveness, and moral responsibility. Warmke has been interviewed on Big Think among other outlets; his work has been featured in The Atlantic, Scientific American, Vox, The Guardian, and HuffPost. Justin Tosi is an Assistant Professor of Philosophy at Texas Tech University. He was previously a Junior Faculty Fellow at the Georgetown Institute for the Study of Markets and Ethics in the McDonough School of Business, and a Postdoctoral Research Fellow and Lecturer in the Philosophy Department at the University of Michigan. He works in social, political, legal, and moral philosophy, and especially on state legitimacy, special obligations, and social morality. His work has been published in Philosophy & Public Affairs, Legal Theory, Pacific Philosophical Quarterly, and other outlets. In addition to Grandstanding: The Use and Abuse of Moral Talk, he has co-authored a second book with Brandon Warmke, Why It’s OK to Mind Your Own Business, that will be published as part of the Routledge series “Why It’s OK: The Ethics of How We Live.”
In Episode 144 of Hidden Forces, Demetri Kofinas speaks with philosophers Brandon Warmke and Justin Tosi about the phenomenon of grandstanding, which they define as “the use and abuse of moral talk for the purposes of self-promotion.”
Although moral grandstanding is a spectacle most commonly associated with those on the political left, the practice of grandstanding is an entirely bipartisan phenomenon. Its increased prevalence in public discourse has dangerous implications for politics and society.
For grandstanders, it isn’t the pursuit of virtue that motivates them. They aren’t concerned with doing good; they’re concerned with looking good; they want others to think that they are morally superior, and they’re willing to go to great lengths in order to do it, including using moral talk as a tactic for punishment and intimidation.
The irony is that grandstanders accomplish all of this by free-riding on the moral behavior and good intentions of others. They turn civil discourse into a moral arms race, weaponizing language, and silencing their enemies with threats of doxing and humiliation.
Our society is currently going through a seismic transition. Norms are being radically upended and Americans are experiencing levels of political polarization arguably unseen since at least the 1970s. If we want to make it through this period in one piece, as one nation, undivided we need to reclaim the moral high ground in our discourse. Otherwise, I’m afraid we’re in danger of losing control of our country to the darker forces of our nature, and this would not bode well for the future of our republic.
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Brandon Warmke is Assistant Professor of Philosophy at Bowling Green State University. A philosopher working on moral and political issues, he is the author of over twenty academic papers on public discourse, forgiveness, and moral responsibility. Warmke has been interviewed on Big Think among other outlets; his work has been featured in The Atlantic, Scientific American, Vox, The Guardian, and HuffPost.
Justin Tosi is an Assistant Professor of Philosophy at Texas Tech University. He was previously a Junior Faculty Fellow at the Georgetown Institute for the Study of Markets and Ethics in the McDonough School of Business, and a Postdoctoral Research Fellow and Lecturer in the Philosophy Department at the University of Michigan. He works in social, political, legal, and moral philosophy, and especially on state legitimacy, special obligations, and social morality. His work has been published in Philosophy & Public Affairs, Legal Theory, Pacific Philosophical Quarterly, and other outlets. In addition to Grandstanding: The Use and Abuse of Moral Talk, he has co-authored a second book with Brandon Warmke, Why It’s OK to Mind Your Own Business, that will be published as part of the Routledge series “Why It’s OK: The Ethics of How We Live.”
Demetri Kofinas is a media entrepreneur and financial analyst whose mission is to help uncover the hidden forces and pivotal patterns shaping our lives. His contrarian perspective and critical-thinking approach has helped hundreds of thousands of people make smarter, informed decisions. This same methodology has helped guide Demetri’s decision-making as an early-stage investor and as a creator of several innovative media properties and live events.
Demetri Kofinas is a media entrepreneur and financial analyst whose mission is to help uncover the hidden forces and pivotal patterns shaping our lives. His contrarian perspective and critical-thinking approach has helped hundreds of thousands of people make smarter, informed decisions. This same methodology has helped guide Demetri’s decision-making as an early-stage investor and as a creator of several innovative media properties and live events.
Demetri Kofinas is a media entrepreneur and financial analyst whose mission is to help uncover the hidden forces and pivotal patterns shaping our lives. His contrarian perspective and critical-thinking approach has helped hundreds of thousands of people make smarter, informed decisions. This same methodology has helped guide Demetri’s decision-making as an early-stage investor and as a creator of several innovative media properties and live events.
Demetri Kofinas is a media entrepreneur and financial analyst whose mission is to help uncover the hidden forces and pivotal patterns shaping our lives. His contrarian perspective and critical-thinking approach has helped hundreds of thousands of people make smarter, informed decisions. This same methodology has helped guide Demetri’s decision-making as an early-stage investor and as a creator of several innovative media properties and live events.
Demetri Kofinas is a media entrepreneur and financial analyst whose mission is to help uncover the hidden forces and pivotal patterns shaping our lives. His contrarian perspective and critical-thinking approach has helped hundreds of thousands of people make smarter, informed decisions. This same methodology has helped guide Demetri’s decision-making as an early-stage investor and as a creator of several innovative media properties and live events.
