
Episode 218
The Age of A.I. and Our Human Future | Eric Schmidt & Dan Huttenlocher

Episode 218
Eric Schmidt & D. Huttenlocher
The Age of A.I. and Our Human Future | Eric Schmidt & Dan Huttenlocher
summary
In Episode 218 of Hidden Forces, Demetri Kofinas speaks with Eric Schmidt and Daniel Huttenlocher. Eric is co-founder of Schmidt Futures and the former CEO & Chairman of Google and Daniel is the inaugural dean of the MIT Schwarzman College of Computing. They are the co-authors, along with Henry Kissinger, of a phenomenal new book titled, “The Age of A.I. And Our Human Future,” which explores how Artificial Intelligence is transforming human society—and what it means for all of us.
Eric and Dan spend the first hour discussing the technical dimensions of artificial intelligence—what it is and how it works—as well as how it will continue to shape and transform our social and physical realities. The second half of the conversation focuses on the national security dimensions of artificial intelligence, as well as the profound philosophical challenges that it poses for humanity, specifically our need to find meaning in a world where machines will provide answers to more and more questions but without the ability, in many cases, to provide us with a rational or methodology by which they arrived at those answer.
For those of you who are interested in the field of blockchain and DLT-enabled applications and smart contracts, Demetri had a chance to ask Eric about where he thinks these technologies fit in an A.I. future, what the main hurdles are going to be, and what some of the interesting projects in the space are.
You can access the second part of this episode, as well as the transcript and rundown to this week’s conversation through the Hidden Forces Supercast Page. All subscribers gain access to our premium feed, which can be easily added to your favorite podcast application.
If you enjoyed listening to today’s episode of Hidden Forces you can help support the show by doing the following:
Subscribe on Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Stitcher | SoundCloud | YouTube | CastBox | RSS Feed
Write us a review on Apple Podcasts
Subscribe to our mailing list through the Hidden Forces Website
Producer & Host: Demetri Kofinas
Editor & Engineer: Stylianos Nicolaou
Subscribe & Support the Podcast at https://hiddenforces.supercast.com
Join the conversation on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter at @hiddenforcespod
Follow Demetri on Twitter at @Kofinas
Episode Recorded on 11/08/2021
bio
Eric Schmidt is a technologist, entrepreneur, and philanthropist. He joined Google in 2001, helping the company grow from a Silicon Valley startup to a global technological leader. He served as chief executive officer and chairman from 2001 to 2011, and as executive chairman and technical advisor thereafter. Under his leadership, Google dramatically scaled its infrastructure and diversified its product offerings while maintaining a culture of innovation. In 2017, he co-founded Schmidt Futures, a philanthropic initiative that bets early on exceptional people making the world better. He serves as chair of The Broad Institute, and formerly served as chair of the National Security Commission on Artificial Intelligence. He is the host of Reimagine with Eric Schmidt, a podcast exploring how society can build a brighter future after the COVID-19 pandemic. He is the co-author of The Age of AI: And Our Human Future (Little, Brown and Company; November 2, 2021), with Henry A. Kissinger and Daniel Huttenlocher.
Daniel Huttenlocher is the inaugural dean of the MIT Schwarzman College of Computing. Previously, he served as founding dean and vice provost of Cornell Tech, the digital technology-oriented graduate school established by Cornell University in New York City. He has a mix of academic and industry experience: computer science faculty member at Cornell and MIT, researcher and manager at the Xerox Palo Alto Research Center (PARC), and CTO of a fintech start-up. Currently, he serves as the chair of the board of the John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation, and as a member of the boards of Amazon and Corning.
transcript
content locked
or Subscribe to Access Premium Content
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Scio enim esse quosdam, qui quavis lingua philosophari possint; Paulum, cum regem Persem captum adduceret, eodem flumine invectio? Erit enim instructus ad mortem contemnendam, ad exilium, ad ipsum etiam dolorem. Omnia contraria, quos etiam insanos esse vultis. An haec ab eo non dicuntur? Duo Reges: constructio interrete. Cum audissem Antiochum, Brute, ut solebam, cum M. Nummus in Croesi divitiis obscuratur, pars est tamen divitiarum. Si alia sentit, inquam, alia loquitur, numquam intellegam quid sentiat;
Quid ergo hoc loco intellegit honestum? Non autem hoc: igitur ne illud quidem. Graecum enim hunc versum nostis omnes-: Suavis laborum est praeteritorum memoria. Hoc ille tuus non vult omnibusque ex rebus voluptatem quasi mercedem exigit. Utrum igitur tibi litteram videor an totas paginas commovere? Nam aliquando posse recte fieri dicunt nulla expectata nec quaesita voluptate. Sed mehercule pergrata mihi oratio tua. Quid est enim aliud esse versutum?
Atqui iste locus est, Piso, tibi etiam atque etiam confirmandus, inquam; Et ille ridens: Video, inquit, quid agas; Compensabatur, inquit, cum summis doloribus laetitia. Cum audissem Antiochum, Brute, ut solebam, cum M. Res tota, Torquate, non doctorum hominum, velle post mortem epulis celebrari memoriam sui nominis. Et quod est munus, quod opus sapientiae? Cur ipse Pythagoras et Aegyptum lustravit et Persarum magos adiit? Quem Tiberina descensio festo illo die tanto gaudio affecit, quanto L.
Tum Quintus: Est plane, Piso, ut dicis, inquit. Hanc ergo intuens debet institutum illud quasi signum absolvere. In parvis enim saepe, qui nihil eorum cogitant, si quando iis ludentes minamur praecipitaturos alicunde, extimescunt. Tuo vero id quidem, inquam, arbitratu. Sed tamen enitar et, si minus multa mihi occurrent, non fugiam ista popularia. Cum id fugiunt, re eadem defendunt, quae Peripatetici, verba. Quare, quoniam de primis naturae commodis satis dietum est nunc de maioribus consequentibusque videamus. Itaque primos congressus copulationesque et consuetudinum instituendarum voluntates fieri propter voluptatem; Si mala non sunt, iacet omnis ratio Peripateticorum. Ego quoque, inquit, didicerim libentius si quid attuleris, quam te reprehenderim. Velut ego nunc moveor.
Full Episode
content locked
or Subscribe to Access Premium Content
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Itaque contra est, ac dicitis; Non risu potius quam oratione eiciendum? Eorum enim omnium multa praetermittentium, dum eligant aliquid, quod sequantur, quasi curta sententia; At cum de plurimis eadem dicit, tum certe de maximis. Quod autem ratione actum est, id officium appellamus. Id mihi magnum videtur. Duo Reges: constructio interrete. Vitae autem degendae ratio maxime quidem illis placuit quieta. Quo modo autem optimum, si bonum praeterea nullum est? Nam et complectitur verbis, quod vult, et dicit plane, quod intellegam;
Sic consequentibus vestris sublatis prima tolluntur. Ut enim consuetudo loquitur, id solum dicitur honestum, quod est populari fama gloriosum. Duarum enim vitarum nobis erunt instituta capienda. Videamus animi partes, quarum est conspectus illustrior; Sed emolumenta communia esse dicuntur, recte autem facta et peccata non habentur communia. Bestiarum vero nullum iudicium puto. Sedulo, inquam, faciam. Deprehensus omnem poenam contemnet.
Ergo in gubernando nihil, in officio plurimum interest, quo in genere peccetur. Equidem e Cn. Sed quid attinet de rebus tam apertis plura requirere? Isto modo, ne si avia quidem eius nata non esset. Fortemne possumus dicere eundem illum Torquatum? Hoc tu nunc in illo probas. Idem iste, inquam, de voluptate quid sentit? Causa autem fuit huc veniendi ut quosdam hinc libros promerem.
Id enim volumus, id contendimus, ut officii fructus sit ipsum officium. Expectoque quid ad id, quod quaerebam, respondeas. Addidisti ad extremum etiam indoctum fuisse. Ac tamen hic mallet non dolere. Ergo adhuc, quantum equidem intellego, causa non videtur fuisse mutandi nominis. Quid autem habent admirationis, cum prope accesseris? Iam id ipsum absurdum, maximum malum neglegi.
intelligence report
content locked
or Subscribe to Access Premium Content
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Ita prorsus, inquam; Haec para/doca illi, nos admirabilia dicamus. Magno hic ingenio, sed res se tamen sic habet, ut nimis imperiosi philosophi sit vetare meminisse. Duo Reges: constructio interrete. Nondum autem explanatum satis, erat, quid maxime natura vellet. An est aliquid per se ipsum flagitiosum, etiamsi nulla comitetur infamia? Aliter enim explicari, quod quaeritur, non potest. Re mihi non aeque satisfacit, et quidem locis pluribus.
An, partus ancillae sitne in fructu habendus, disseretur inter principes civitatis, P. Equidem, sed audistine modo de Carneade? Quod totum contra est. Transfer idem ad modestiam vel temperantiam, quae est moderatio cupiditatum rationi oboediens. Quid est, quod ab ea absolvi et perfici debeat? Alterum significari idem, ut si diceretur, officia media omnia aut pleraque servantem vivere. Saepe ab Aristotele, a Theophrasto mirabiliter est laudata per se ipsa rerum scientia; Quae est igitur causa istarum angustiarum?
Mihi, inquam, qui te id ipsum rogavi? Quamquam in hac divisione rem ipsam prorsus probo, elegantiam desidero. Indicant pueri, in quibus ut in speculis natura cernitur. Ut aliquid scire se gaudeant? Minime vero istorum quidem, inquit. O magnam vim ingenii causamque iustam, cur nova existeret disciplina! Perge porro. Si enim ad populum me vocas, eum. Quis est tam dissimile homini.
Quid ergo aliud intellegetur nisi uti ne quae pars naturae neglegatur? Quis enim potest ea, quae probabilia videantur ei, non probare? Istam voluptatem perpetuam quis potest praestare sapienti? Duae sunt enim res quoque, ne tu verba solum putes. Etsi ea quidem, quae adhuc dixisti, quamvis ad aetatem recte isto modo dicerentur. Estne, quaeso, inquam, sitienti in bibendo voluptas? Quos nisi redarguimus, omnis virtus, omne decus, omnis vera laus deserenda est. Sin tantum modo ad indicia veteris memoriae cognoscenda, curiosorum. Quid interest, nisi quod ego res notas notis verbis appello, illi nomina nova quaerunt, quibus idem dicant? Quod vestri quidem vel optime disputant, nihil opus esse eum, qui philosophus futurus sit, scire litteras. Aliam vero vim voluptatis esse, aliam nihil dolendi, nisi valde pertinax fueris, concedas necesse est. Bonum integritas corporis: misera debilitas.
related episodes
Episode 28
Demetri Kofinas
Demetri Kofinas | Industrial Society and Its Future: Machine Intelligence, Encryption, and the Will to Power
Episode 159
Chris Brose
The Kill Chain: Defending America in the Future of High-Tech Warfare | Chris Brose
Episode 87
David Weinberger
David Weinberger | Complex Systems, Inexplicable Models, and the Future of Prediction
Episode 141
Joseph Nye
Co-Founder of Neoliberal School on the Foreign Policy of Presidents from F.D.R. to Trump | Joseph Nye
Episode 69
Rebecca Goldstein
Rebecca Goldstein on Why Philosophy Isn’t Going Away: A Conversation on What Matters Most
Episode 79
Shoshana Zuboff
Surveillance Capitalism in the Age of the Unprecedented | Shoshana Zuboff
Episode 64
Hannah Fry
Hannah Fry on Being Human in the Age of Algorithms, Big Data, and Artificial Intelligence
Episode 24
Jeffrey Rosen
Jeffrey Rosen | Constitutional Law in the Digital Age: Privacy, Personhood, and Freedom
Episode 21
John Borthwick
John Borthwick | Designing Machines with Humanity in Mind: Superintelligence, Relativism, and Simulation
Video
content locked
or Subscribe to Access Premium Content
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Sin laboramus, quis est, qui alienae modum statuat industriae? Dicet pro me ipsa virtus nec dubitabit isti vestro beato M. Ergo ita: non posse honeste vivi, nisi honeste vivatur? Hoc est non modo cor non habere, sed ne palatum quidem. Duo Reges: constructio interrete. Quae cum magnifice primo dici viderentur, considerata minus probabantur.
Ergo id est convenienter naturae vivere, a natura discedere. Quid ergo aliud intellegetur nisi uti ne quae pars naturae neglegatur? Ego vero volo in virtute vim esse quam maximam; Quae similitudo in genere etiam humano apparet. Tertium autem omnibus aut maximis rebus iis, quae secundum naturam sint, fruentem vivere.
Quae autem natura suae primae institutionis oblita est? Theophrastus mediocriterne delectat, cum tractat locos ab Aristotele ante tractatos? Quam ob rem tandem, inquit, non satisfacit? Quae cum ita sint, effectum est nihil esse malum, quod turpe non sit. Ac tamen hic mallet non dolere. Sin kakan malitiam dixisses, ad aliud nos unum certum vitium consuetudo Latina traduceret. Erit enim instructus ad mortem contemnendam, ad exilium, ad ipsum etiam dolorem.
Sit ista in Graecorum levitate perversitas, qui maledictis insectantur eos, a quibus de veritate dissentiunt. Superiores tres erant, quae esse possent, quarum est una sola defensa, eaque vehementer. Item de contrariis, a quibus ad genera formasque generum venerunt. An me, inquam, nisi te audire vellem, censes haec dicturum fuisse? Neque enim civitas in seditione beata esse potest nec in discordia dominorum domus; Nemo igitur esse beatus potest. Habent enim et bene longam et satis litigiosam disputationem. Ex quo, id quod omnes expetunt, beate vivendi ratio inveniri et comparari potest. Si enim ita est, vide ne facinus facias, cum mori suadeas. Quoniam, si dis placet, ab Epicuro loqui discimus. Aliter enim nosmet ipsos nosse non possumus.