In Episode 241 of Hidden Forces, Demetri Kofinas speaks with Chris Painter, a globally recognized leader and expert on cyber security who has been at the vanguard of U.S. and international cyber issues for over thirty years—first as a prosecutor of some of the most high-profile cybercrime cases in the country and then as a senior official at the Department of Justice, FBI, the National Security Council, and the State Department. He’s responsible for having established the Office of the Coordinator for Cyber Issues and served as Senior Director for Cyber Policy in the National Security Council.
With the Biden administration reiterating prior warnings that the Russian Government is exploring options for conducting cyber attacks against the United States in response to sanctions levied against the Russian economy, we wanted to help bring all of you up to speed on exactly what those warnings are, what steps are being taken to minimize the damage they may cause, and what the range of possible responses by the U.S. government will be depending on the nature and targets of those attacks.
This conversation is meant to give you the information that you need in order to best prepare yourselves and your businesses for what might be coming next, so that you remain ahead of the curve as events evolve and as the collateral damage of the war in Ukraine potentially widens.
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Chris Painter is a globally recognized leader and expert on cybersecurity and cyber policy, Cyber Diplomacy and combatting cybercrime. He has been on the vanguard of U.S. and international cyber issues for over thirty years—first as a prosecutor of some of the most high-profile cybercrime cases in the country and then as a senior official at the Department of Justice, FBI, the National Security Council and finally the State Department.
In his most recent government role as the nation’s top cyber diplomat, Mr. Painter coordinated and led the United States’ diplomatic efforts to advance an open, interoperable, secure and reliable Internet and information infrastructure. The pioneering office that Mr. Painter established — the Office of the Coordinator for Cyber Issues — was the first high-level position and office dedicated to advancing the diplomatic aspects of cyber issues ranging from national security to human rights matters.
Prior to joining the State Department, Mr. Painter served in the White House as Senior Director for Cyber Policy in the National Security Council. He was a senior member of the team that conducted the President’s Cyberspace Policy Review in 2009 and subsequently helped create and then structure a new directorate in the National Security Council devoted to these issues. As a federal prosecutor, Mr. Painter prosecuted, among others, notorious hacker Kevin Mitnick, one of the first wide-spread distributed denial of service attacks and the first Internet stock manipulation cases. He also chaired the G8 (and then G7) High-Tech Crime Group for over ten years.
Among other things, Mr. Painter is currently the President of the Global Forum on Cyber Expertise Foundation, serves on the Board of the Center for Internet Security, is a non-resident Senior Advisor at the CSIS, an Associate Fellow at Chatham House, and is a member of the Public Sector Advisory Board for Palo Alto Networks. He was also a co-chair of the Ransomware Task Force and a Commissioner on the Global Commission on the Stability of Cyberspace.
Mr. Painter was named the Bartels World Affairs Fellow by Cornell University for 2017-2018, received The Order of the Rising Sun from the Government of Japan for promoting U.S-Japan cyber cooperation in 2018 and received the Order of Terra Mariana from the President of Estonia in 2020 for promoting cyber cooperation. He is also the recipient of the RSA Award for Excellence in the Field of Public Policy (2016), the Attorney General’s Award for Exceptional Service, and the Intelligence Community Legal Award (2008). He is a graduate of Stanford Law School and Cornell University and clerked for US Circuit Judge Betty Fletcher.
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Quem Tiberina descensio festo illo die tanto gaudio affecit, quanto L. Possumusne ergo in vita summum bonum dicere, cum id ne in cena quidem posse videamur? Nos paucis ad haec additis finem faciamus aliquando; Hic quoque suus est de summoque bono dissentiens dici vere Peripateticus non potest. Quod autem satis est, eo quicquid accessit, nimium est; Nec enim, omnes avaritias si aeque avaritias esse dixerimus, sequetur ut etiam aequas esse dicamus. Eodem modo is enim tibi nemo dabit, quod, expetendum sit, id esse laudabile. At iste non dolendi status non vocatur voluptas.
Quorum altera prosunt, nocent altera. Illum mallem levares, quo optimum atque humanissimum virum, Cn. Oculorum, inquit Plato, est in nobis sensus acerrimus, quibus sapientiam non cernimus. Que Manilium, ab iisque M. Tamen a proposito, inquam, aberramus. Verum hoc loco sumo verbis his eandem certe vim voluptatis Epicurum nosse quam ceteros. Pauca mutat vel plura sane;
Etsi qui potest intellegi aut cogitari esse aliquod animal, quod se oderit? Ad corpus diceres pertinere-, sed ea, quae dixi, ad corpusne refers? Itaque vides, quo modo loquantur, nova verba fingunt, deserunt usitata. Quoniam, si dis placet, ab Epicuro loqui discimus. Sed quae tandem ista ratio est? Quasi ego id curem, quid ille aiat aut neget. Dulce amarum, leve asperum, prope longe, stare movere, quadratum rotundum.
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Duo Reges: constructio interrete. Quo studio Aristophanem putamus aetatem in litteris duxisse?
Etenim nec iustitia nec amicitia esse omnino poterunt, nisi ipsae per se expetuntur. Sint ista Graecorum; Nunc omni virtuti vitium contrario nomine opponitur. Ille vero, si insipiens-quo certe, quoniam tyrannus -, numquam beatus; Quae hic rei publicae vulnera inponebat, eadem ille sanabat. Hic, qui utrumque probat, ambobus debuit uti, sicut facit re, neque tamen dividit verbis.
Laboro autem non sine causa; Atque haec coniunctio confusioque virtutum tamen a philosophis ratione quadam distinguitur. Non dolere, inquam, istud quam vim habeat postea videro; Nihil minus, contraque illa hereditate dives ob eamque rem laetus. Eiuro, inquit adridens, iniquum, hac quidem de re; Suo genere perveniant ad extremum; Prodest, inquit, mihi eo esse animo. Eam stabilem appellas. Itaque si aut requietem natura non quaereret aut eam posset alia quadam ratione consequi.
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Qui non moveatur et offensione turpitudinis et comprobatione honestatis? Quod si ita sit, cur opera philosophiae sit danda nescio. Unum nescio, quo modo possit, si luxuriosus sit, finitas cupiditates habere. Polycratem Samium felicem appellabant. Quamquam ab iis philosophiam et omnes ingenuas disciplinas habemus; Qui enim voluptatem ipsam contemnunt, iis licet dicere se acupenserem maenae non anteponere. Quare si potest esse beatus is, qui est in asperis reiciendisque rebus, potest is quoque esse.
Nam illud vehementer repugnat, eundem beatum esse et multis malis oppressum. Quod si ita se habeat, non possit beatam praestare vitam sapientia. Nos quidem Virtutes sic natae sumus, ut tibi serviremus, aliud negotii nihil habemus. Quo studio Aristophanem putamus aetatem in litteris duxisse? An ea, quae per vinitorem antea consequebatur, per se ipsa curabit? De quibus etsi a Chrysippo maxime est elaboratum, tamen a Zenone minus multo quam ab antiquis; Eam tum adesse, cum dolor omnis absit;
Ad eas enim res ab Epicuro praecepta dantur. Tamen a proposito, inquam, aberramus. Illa videamus, quae a te de amicitia dicta sunt. Estne, quaeso, inquam, sitienti in bibendo voluptas? Aut, Pylades cum sis, dices te esse Orestem, ut moriare pro amico? Sed haec omittamus; Nunc haec primum fortasse audientis servire debemus. In his igitur partibus duabus nihil erat, quod Zeno commutare gestiret. Fortasse id optimum, sed ubi illud: Plus semper voluptatis?
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Quae tamen a te agetur non melior, quam illae sunt, quas interdum optines. Cur tantas regiones barbarorum pedibus obiit, tot maria transmisit? Suo genere perveniant ad extremum; Huius ego nunc auctoritatem sequens idem faciam. Peccata paria. Satisne vobis videor pro meo iure in vestris auribus commentatus? Sic consequentibus vestris sublatis prima tolluntur. Quid turpius quam sapientis vitam ex insipientium sermone pendere?
Portenta haec esse dicit, neque ea ratione ullo modo posse vivi; Quae duo sunt, unum facit. Et ille ridens: Video, inquit, quid agas; Sit, inquam, tam facilis, quam vultis, comparatio voluptatis, quid de dolore dicemus? Ergo infelix una molestia, fellx rursus, cum is ipse anulus in praecordiis piscis inventus est? Deinde prima illa, quae in congressu solemus: Quid tu, inquit, huc? Ait enim se, si uratur, Quam hoc suave! dicturum. Introduci enim virtus nullo modo potest, nisi omnia, quae leget quaeque reiciet, unam referentur ad summam. Hanc ergo intuens debet institutum illud quasi signum absolvere. Si quae forte-possumus.
Dat enim id nobis solitudo, quod si qui deus diceret, numquam putarem me in Academia tamquam philosophum disputaturum. Bona autem corporis huic sunt, quod posterius posui, similiora. Hoc dixerit potius Ennius: Nimium boni est, cui nihil est mali. Quo tandem modo? Contineo me ab exemplis.
