Dean Woodley Ball is a senior fellow at FAI. He most recently served as senior policy advisor for Artificial Intelligence and Emerging Technology at the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy and strategic advisor for AI at the National Science Foundation. Previously he was a research fellow in the Artificial Intelligence & Progress Project at George Mason University’s Mercatus Center and a policy fellow at Fathom. Dean is author of Hyperdimensional. His work focuses on emerging technologies and the future of governance, spanning artificial intelligence, manufacturing innovation, neural technology, bioengineering, technology policy, political theory, public finance, urban infrastructure, and criminal justice reform. Outside of FAI, his scholarship has been published by the Mercatus Center, the Hoover Institution, the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, the Federation of American Scientists, the Manhattan Institute, and American Compass. His writing has appeared in National Affairs, The New Atlantis, Pirate Wires, Lawfare, The Dispatch, The Hill, Tech Policy Press, the Washington Post, the Orange County Register, the Coolidge Quarterly, and National Review. His academic work includes “Neither Harbour nor Floor: Contemplating the Singularity with Michael Oakeshott” in the forthcoming Liberalism Revisited (Palgrave) and “Ideas of Another Order: Michael Oakeshott and Confucius in Conversation” in Collingwood and British Idealism Studies. Prior to his government service, Dean held senior positions at Stanford’s Hoover Institution, the Calvin Coolidge Presidential Foundation, and the Manhattan Institute, where he oversaw the Hayek Book Prize. He also consults on passion projects, including on-the-ground policing reform in Argentina and Chile and the restoration of the Florentine guild system for sacred liturgical art. Dean serves on the board of directors of the Alexander Hamilton Institute and was selected as an Aspen Ideas Fellow. He graduated magna cum laude from Hamilton College with a BA in history and lives in Washington, DC with his wife, Abigail, and their two cats, Io and Ganymede.
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Episode 484
Dean W. Ball
AI Governance and the National Security State | Dean Ball
Dean Woodley Ball is a senior fellow at FAI. He most recently served as senior policy advisor for Artificial Intelligence and Emerging Technology at the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy and strategic advisor for AI at the National Science Foundation. Previously he was a research fellow in the Artificial Intelligence & Progress Project at George Mason University’s Mercatus Center and a policy fellow at Fathom. Dean is author of Hyperdimensional. His work focuses on emerging technologies and the future of governance, spanning artificial intelligence, manufacturing innovation, neural technology, bioengineering, technology policy, political theory, public finance, urban infrastructure, and criminal justice reform. Outside of FAI, his scholarship has been published by the Mercatus Center, the Hoover Institution, the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, the Federation of American Scientists, the Manhattan Institute, and American Compass. His writing has appeared in National Affairs, The New Atlantis, Pirate Wires, Lawfare, The Dispatch, The Hill, Tech Policy Press, the Washington Post, the Orange County Register, the Coolidge Quarterly, and National Review. His academic work includes “Neither Harbour nor Floor: Contemplating the Singularity with Michael Oakeshott” in the forthcoming Liberalism Revisited (Palgrave) and “Ideas of Another Order: Michael Oakeshott and Confucius in Conversation” in Collingwood and British Idealism Studies. Prior to his government service, Dean held senior positions at Stanford’s Hoover Institution, the Calvin Coolidge Presidential Foundation, and the Manhattan Institute, where he oversaw the Hayek Book Prize. He also consults on passion projects, including on-the-ground policing reform in Argentina and Chile and the restoration of the Florentine guild system for sacred liturgical art. Dean serves on the board of directors of the Alexander Hamilton Institute and was selected as an Aspen Ideas Fellow. He graduated magna cum laude from Hamilton College with a BA in history and lives in Washington, DC with his wife, Abigail, and their two cats, Io and Ganymede.
In Episode 484 of Hidden Forces, Demetri Kofinas speaks with AI policy researcher, writer, and incoming Head of Strategic Futures at OpenAI, Dean Ball, about the intellectual foundations of machine intelligence, the AI governance frameworks best suited to frontier AI, and what’s at stake for society, the nation state, and the individual if we get this transition wrong.
The first hour builds the philosophical scaffolding for the conversation to come — what intelligence actually is, how large language models learn, what they understand, and the broader historical thesis animating Dean’s worldview: that we are not witnessing the birth of something entirely new, but rather living through a computing revolution that began with the transistor and is now reaching its natural culmination in the era of machine intelligence.
The second hour turns to what’s at stake in this transition and the AI governance models Dean believes are most suited to it. They begin with his conception of superintelligence — not as a singular, all-knowing entity, but as something whose power will derive largely from being embedded in the infrastructure of human civilization. From there, they examine where Dean falls along the continuum from doomer to accelerationist, what a sensible approach to AI governance actually looks like, and the real-world test case of Anthropic’s dispute with the Department of War — what it reveals about tensions between private frontier AI labs and the national security state, and how Dean thinks about forging public-private governance structures adequate to the age of AI. They close by examining labor market disruption, the overproduction of elites, and which nations, societies, and individuals are best positioned to navigate the transition ahead.
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Dean Woodley Ball is a senior fellow at FAI. He most recently served as senior policy advisor for Artificial Intelligence and Emerging Technology at the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy and strategic advisor for AI at the National Science Foundation. Previously he was a research fellow in the Artificial Intelligence & Progress Project at George Mason University’s Mercatus Center and a policy fellow at Fathom.
Dean is author of Hyperdimensional. His work focuses on emerging technologies and the future of governance, spanning artificial intelligence, manufacturing innovation, neural technology, bioengineering, technology policy, political theory, public finance, urban infrastructure, and criminal justice reform. Outside of FAI, his scholarship has been published by the Mercatus Center, the Hoover Institution, the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, the Federation of American Scientists, the Manhattan Institute, and American Compass.
His writing has appeared in National Affairs, The New Atlantis, Pirate Wires, Lawfare, The Dispatch, The Hill, Tech Policy Press, the Washington Post, the Orange County Register, the Coolidge Quarterly, and National Review. His academic work includes “Neither Harbour nor Floor: Contemplating the Singularity with Michael Oakeshott” in the forthcoming Liberalism Revisited (Palgrave) and “Ideas of Another Order: Michael Oakeshott and Confucius in Conversation” in Collingwood and British Idealism Studies.
Prior to his government service, Dean held senior positions at Stanford’s Hoover Institution, the Calvin Coolidge Presidential Foundation, and the Manhattan Institute, where he oversaw the Hayek Book Prize. He also consults on passion projects, including on-the-ground policing reform in Argentina and Chile and the restoration of the Florentine guild system for sacred liturgical art.
Dean serves on the board of directors of the Alexander Hamilton Institute and was selected as an Aspen Ideas Fellow. He graduated magna cum laude from Hamilton College with a BA in history and lives in Washington, DC with his wife, Abigail, and their two cats, Io and Ganymede.
Demetri Kofinas is a media entrepreneur and financial analyst whose mission is to help uncover the hidden forces and pivotal patterns shaping our lives. His contrarian perspective and critical-thinking approach has helped hundreds of thousands of people make smarter, informed decisions. This same methodology has helped guide Demetri’s decision-making as an early-stage investor and as a creator of several innovative media properties and live events.
Demetri Kofinas is a media entrepreneur and financial analyst whose mission is to help uncover the hidden forces and pivotal patterns shaping our lives. His contrarian perspective and critical-thinking approach has helped hundreds of thousands of people make smarter, informed decisions. This same methodology has helped guide Demetri’s decision-making as an early-stage investor and as a creator of several innovative media properties and live events.
Demetri Kofinas is a media entrepreneur and financial analyst whose mission is to help uncover the hidden forces and pivotal patterns shaping our lives. His contrarian perspective and critical-thinking approach has helped hundreds of thousands of people make smarter, informed decisions. This same methodology has helped guide Demetri’s decision-making as an early-stage investor and as a creator of several innovative media properties and live events.
Demetri Kofinas is a media entrepreneur and financial analyst whose mission is to help uncover the hidden forces and pivotal patterns shaping our lives. His contrarian perspective and critical-thinking approach has helped hundreds of thousands of people make smarter, informed decisions. This same methodology has helped guide Demetri’s decision-making as an early-stage investor and as a creator of several innovative media properties and live events.
Demetri Kofinas is a media entrepreneur and financial analyst whose mission is to help uncover the hidden forces and pivotal patterns shaping our lives. His contrarian perspective and critical-thinking approach has helped hundreds of thousands of people make smarter, informed decisions. This same methodology has helped guide Demetri’s decision-making as an early-stage investor and as a creator of several innovative media properties and live events.
