Mustafa Suleyman is a renowned tech expert and venture partner, known for his development of leading AI models. He is the co-founder of DeepMind and more recently, the co-founder of Inflection AI, which just released a new generative AI chatbot called Pi. Mustafa was Vice President of AI Product Management and AI Policy at Google and before that he co-founded DeepMind, the world’s leading AI company which was sold to Google in 2014. He was at DeepMind for over a decade, during which time the company achieved multiple grounding breaking contributions to the field of AI research and applications. Most notably DeepMind developed AlphaGo, an AI system that beat the world’s strongest Go player in a now legendary multi-day competition broadcast live and watched by millions of people across the world. During his time at DeepMind Mustafa led teams inventing and deploying cutting edge AI systems across a wide range of domain including to more accurately detect breast cancer in mammograms, to diagnose 50 different eye diseases in OCT scans and to control Google’s multi-billion dollar data centers to optimize energy consumption. He also worked with many teams across Google to apply the latest AI techniques in Android, Hardware, Play and Cloud. Prior to DeepMind Mustafa co-founded Reos Partners, a global conflict resolution firm and as a skilled negotiator and facilitator, Mustafa worked all over the world for a wide range of clients, such as the UN, the Dutch Government and WWF. He dropped out of his undergraduate degree at Oxford University to help start a non-profit telephone counseling service. In 2019 Mustafa was awarded the title of Commander of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire by Queen Elizabeth II for his services to the UK technology industry, as well as the Silicon Valley Visionary Award. Mustafa is also a member of the Board of Directors of The Economist newspaper.
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Episode 336
Mustafa Suleyman
Artificial Intelligence and the Containment Problem | Mustafa Suleyman
Mustafa Suleyman is a renowned tech expert and venture partner, known for his development of leading AI models. He is the co-founder of DeepMind and more recently, the co-founder of Inflection AI, which just released a new generative AI chatbot called Pi. Mustafa was Vice President of AI Product Management and AI Policy at Google and before that he co-founded DeepMind, the world’s leading AI company which was sold to Google in 2014. He was at DeepMind for over a decade, during which time the company achieved multiple grounding breaking contributions to the field of AI research and applications. Most notably DeepMind developed AlphaGo, an AI system that beat the world’s strongest Go player in a now legendary multi-day competition broadcast live and watched by millions of people across the world. During his time at DeepMind Mustafa led teams inventing and deploying cutting edge AI systems across a wide range of domain including to more accurately detect breast cancer in mammograms, to diagnose 50 different eye diseases in OCT scans and to control Google’s multi-billion dollar data centers to optimize energy consumption. He also worked with many teams across Google to apply the latest AI techniques in Android, Hardware, Play and Cloud. Prior to DeepMind Mustafa co-founded Reos Partners, a global conflict resolution firm and as a skilled negotiator and facilitator, Mustafa worked all over the world for a wide range of clients, such as the UN, the Dutch Government and WWF. He dropped out of his undergraduate degree at Oxford University to help start a non-profit telephone counseling service. In 2019 Mustafa was awarded the title of Commander of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire by Queen Elizabeth II for his services to the UK technology industry, as well as the Silicon Valley Visionary Award. Mustafa is also a member of the Board of Directors of The Economist newspaper.
In Episode 336 of Hidden Forces, Demetri Kofinas speaks with Google DeepMind co-founder Mustafa Suleyman about the containment problem and the AI dilemma that he outlines in his book, “The Coming Wave: Technology, Power, and the Twenty-first Century’s Greatest Dilemma.”
Mustafa Suleyman and Demetri discuss the rapid advancement and proliferation of Artificial Intelligence and Synthetic Biology, why this revolution is going to be fundamentally different from past periods of rapid technological change, and what can be done to solve the containment problem and prevent some of the more catastrophic outcomes from occurring, while still reaping the benefits of this next wave of innovation.
The first hour of this episode is spent exploring how these AI systems work, how they learn, and how they perceive the world, as well as why they are so difficult to contain. And yet, we need to contain them if we want to avoid some of the more catastrophic outcomes like synthetically engineered pandemics, pandemics of public confusion that undermine our sense of reality, and moves toward totalitarianism or civilization-ending anarchy.
In the second hour, Kofinas and Mustafa Suleyman discuss various versions of what success and failure might look like and what we can do as a society to help move us closer toward the future that we want and away from dystopian nightmares that we’ve all seen depicted in some of the most famous movies of the last half-century.
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Mustafa Suleyman is a renowned tech expert and venture partner, known for his development of leading AI models. He is the co-founder of DeepMind and more recently, the co-founder of Inflection AI, which just released a new generative AI chatbot called Pi. Mustafa was Vice President of AI Product Management and AI Policy at Google and before that he co-founded DeepMind, the world’s leading AI company which was sold to Google in 2014. He was at DeepMind for over a decade, during which time the company achieved multiple grounding breaking contributions to the field of AI research and applications. Most notably DeepMind developed AlphaGo, an AI system that beat the world’s strongest Go player in a now legendary multi-day competition broadcast live and watched by millions of people across the world. During his time at DeepMind Mustafa led teams inventing and deploying cutting edge AI systems across a wide range of domain including to more accurately detect breast cancer in mammograms, to diagnose 50 different eye diseases in OCT scans and to control Google’s multi-billion dollar data centers to optimize energy consumption. He also worked with many teams across Google to apply the latest AI techniques in Android, Hardware, Play and Cloud. Prior to DeepMind Mustafa co-founded Reos Partners, a global conflict resolution firm and as a skilled negotiator and facilitator, Mustafa worked all over the world for a wide range of clients, such as the UN, the Dutch Government and WWF. He dropped out of his undergraduate degree at Oxford University to help start a non-profit telephone counseling service. In 2019 Mustafa was awarded the title of Commander of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire by Queen Elizabeth II for his services to the UK technology industry, as well as the Silicon Valley Visionary Award. Mustafa is also a member of the Board of Directors of The Economist newspaper.
Demetri Kofinas is a media entrepreneur and financial analyst whose mission is to help uncover the hidden forces and pivotal patterns shaping our lives. His contrarian perspective and critical-thinking approach has helped hundreds of thousands of people make smarter, informed decisions. This same methodology has helped guide Demetri’s decision-making as an early-stage investor and as a creator of several innovative media properties and live events.
Demetri Kofinas is a media entrepreneur and financial analyst whose mission is to help uncover the hidden forces and pivotal patterns shaping our lives. His contrarian perspective and critical-thinking approach has helped hundreds of thousands of people make smarter, informed decisions. This same methodology has helped guide Demetri’s decision-making as an early-stage investor and as a creator of several innovative media properties and live events.
Demetri Kofinas is a media entrepreneur and financial analyst whose mission is to help uncover the hidden forces and pivotal patterns shaping our lives. His contrarian perspective and critical-thinking approach has helped hundreds of thousands of people make smarter, informed decisions. This same methodology has helped guide Demetri’s decision-making as an early-stage investor and as a creator of several innovative media properties and live events.
Demetri Kofinas is a media entrepreneur and financial analyst whose mission is to help uncover the hidden forces and pivotal patterns shaping our lives. His contrarian perspective and critical-thinking approach has helped hundreds of thousands of people make smarter, informed decisions. This same methodology has helped guide Demetri’s decision-making as an early-stage investor and as a creator of several innovative media properties and live events.
Demetri Kofinas is a media entrepreneur and financial analyst whose mission is to help uncover the hidden forces and pivotal patterns shaping our lives. His contrarian perspective and critical-thinking approach has helped hundreds of thousands of people make smarter, informed decisions. This same methodology has helped guide Demetri’s decision-making as an early-stage investor and as a creator of several innovative media properties and live events.
