Episode 124
Peter Zeihan | Disunited Nations: The Scramble for Power in an Ungoverned World
Episode 124
Peter Zeihan
Peter Zeihan | Disunited Nations: The Scramble for Power in an Ungoverned World
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In Episode 124 of Hidden Forces, Demetri Kofinas speaks with Peter Zeihan, a geopolitical strategist who combines an expert understanding of demography, economics, energy, politics, technology, and security to help his clients prepare for an uncertain future. Before founding his own strategy firm, Peter helped develop the analytical models for Stratfor, one of the world’s premier private intelligence companies. He’s also a critically-acclaimed author whose first two books — The Accidental Superpower and The Absent Superpower — have been recommended by Mitt Romney, Fareed Zakaria and Ian Bremmer. His latest book, “Disunited Nations: The Scramble for Power in an Ungoverned World,” hits bookstores tomorrow.
This is one of the most educational conversations that we have ever recorded on Hidden Forces. The episode is meant to provide you with a comprehensive overview of Peter Zeihan’s work and outlook on the subjects of foreign affairs, economics, and geopolitics. The goal is to help you understand just how abnormal our world has been for the last 70 years and what a return to a more “normal world” is going to look like. America’s withdrawal from the world has consequences for governments, business people, retirees, and especially for anyone who is living or invested in countries that have been the primary beneficiaries of the American lead international Order of the past three generations.
In the first hour, Peter lays the foundation for what this new world is going to look like, how it differs from the world we’ve inhabited since the end of World War Two, and what sorts of forces will be driving the changes that we can expect to experience over the next few decades. Towards the end of the episode we start to get into specific countries and regions, exploring the types of changes that we can expect to see economically, politically, geographically, and militarily in the not-too-distant future.
The future that Peter lays out is one of both risk and opportunity, and we explore many of these opportunities in the second half of this episode, including those dealing with Turkey, Argentina, and perhaps, most importantly, the United States and what Americans and their nation’s regional partners can expect to experience in the scramble for security, resources, and power in the world to come.
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Peter Zeihan is a geopolitical strategist, which is a fancy way of saying he helps people understand how the world works. Peter combines an expert understanding of demography, economics, energy, politics, technology, and security to help clients best prepare for an uncertain future. Over the course of his career, Peter has worked for the US State Department in Australia, the DC think tank community, and helped develop the analytical models for Stratfor, one of the world’s premier private intelligence companies. Peter founded his own firm — Zeihan on Geopolitics — in 2012 in order to provide a select group of clients with direct, custom analytical products. Today those clients represent a vast array of sectors including energy majors, financial institutions, business associations, agricultural interests, universities and the U.S. military. With a keen eye toward what will drive tomorrow’s headlines, his irreverent approach transforms topics that are normally dense and heavy into accessible, relevant takeaways for audiences of all types. Peter is a critically-acclaimed author whose first two books — The Accidental Superpower and The Absent Superpower — have been recommended by Mitt Romney, Fareed Zakaria and Ian Bremmer. His forthcoming third title, Disunited Nations: The Scramble for Power in an Ungoverned World will be available in March 2020.
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Quia nec honesto quic quam honestius nec turpi turpius. Sed tempus est, si videtur, et recta quidem ad me. Sed vobis voluptatum perceptarum recordatio vitam beatam facit, et quidem corpore perceptarum. Superiores tres erant, quae esse possent, quarum est una sola defensa, eaque vehementer. Non modo carum sibi quemque, verum etiam vehementer carum esse? Quodsi ipsam honestatem undique pertectam atque absolutam. Ita multo sanguine profuso in laetitia et in victoria est mortuus. Semper enim ex eo, quod maximas partes continet latissimeque funditur, tota res appellatur. Tria genera bonorum; Eorum enim omnium multa praetermittentium, dum eligant aliquid, quod sequantur, quasi curta sententia;
Duo Reges: constructio interrete. Quos quidem tibi studiose et diligenter tractandos magnopere censeo. Quod vestri quidem vel optime disputant, nihil opus esse eum, qui philosophus futurus sit, scire litteras.
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Bonum integritas corporis: misera debilitas. In motu et in statu corporis nihil inest, quod animadvertendum esse ipsa natura iudicet? Nam, ut paulo ante docui, augendae voluptatis finis est doloris omnis amotio. Itaque in rebus minime obscuris non multus est apud eos disserendi labor. Tum ille: Tu autem cum ipse tantum librorum habeas, quos hic tandem requiris? Tu autem negas fortem esse quemquam posse, qui dolorem malum putet.
Nunc reliqua videamus, nisi aut ad haec, Cato, dicere aliquid vis aut nos iam longiores sumus. Inde sermone vario sex illa a Dipylo stadia confecimus. Atque hoc loco similitudines eas, quibus illi uti solent, dissimillimas proferebas. Nos commodius agimus. Non quaeritur autem quid naturae tuae consentaneum sit, sed quid disciplinae. Graecum enim hunc versum nostis omnes-: Suavis laborum est praeteritorum memoria.
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Cum autem in quo sapienter dicimus, id a primo rectissime dicitur. Quaesita enim virtus est, non quae relinqueret naturam, sed quae tueretur. Quod autem in homine praestantissimum atque optimum est, id deseruit.
Quae quo sunt excelsiores, eo dant clariora indicia naturae. Quorum sine causa fieri nihil putandum est. Negat esse eam, inquit, propter se expetendam. Aut unde est hoc contritum vetustate proverbium: quicum in tenebris? Itaque et manendi in vita et migrandi ratio omnis iis rebus, quas supra dixi, metienda. At ille pellit, qui permulcet sensum voluptate. Neque enim civitas in seditione beata esse potest nec in discordia dominorum domus; Vide igitur ne non debeas verbis nostris uti, sententiis tuis.
Commoda autem et incommoda in eo genere sunt, quae praeposita et reiecta diximus; Erat enim Polemonis. Bona autem corporis huic sunt, quod posterius posui, similiora. Quid enim mihi potest esse optatius quam cum Catone, omnium virtutum auctore, de virtutibus disputare?